Matters Of An Introductory Nature.

Hello, Arden here, saying hello to a new establishment. Anybody out there?

I've just come in from the cold, now where is my martini Sir?

Oh I'm Veronika by the way, pleased to meet the members of this fine establishment; when you get to know me better you may call me Lady Vonny. In the meantime I'll be over with the burlesque entertainers, wherever that will be, or is.

My avatar will appear in due time.

Splendid! It's a little quiet at the moment but I'm sure it'll soon be a happening.

Do you like an olive in your martini?

I'm here.

I suspect I should suggest a section devoted to the mechanics of the software we're using, so there can be links to manuals, etc, and help with answering questions on links and such.

This software is as complex as you want to make it. You can sit and talk while working, or you can be very complex with the use of cyborgs, scripts, animated backgrounds. I don't want to scare people away from the project by listing all the technical stuff, but that stuff is good if you have a vision and want to create it.

Excellent: I was planning to create a thread devoted to ideas and planning of the infinite canvas - a sort of 'story so far' then upwards and onwards. That'll sit perfectly with the thread you've suggested; these should probably be in the top secret project section - you know how much they're all going to try to steal this before we can roll it out!

And also remember, we were hacked, and the DNS issue last night was part of that.
In talking to the support group, we are "the palace that got hacked". like how people stupidly refer to Harry Potter as "The boy who lived"- (I hate that, because for god's sake, look around you, the who damned school is chock full of boys that are living, that accomplishment is no great shakes if EVERY boy is doing it.)

Haha! Really?!
Makes me feel a sense of pride to be "The Palace that got hacked" - it's like, "why are they hacking those guys? they hardly have anything up yet? What do they know that we don't? Call for pizza - I am not moving from this spot!"

Weird on the hacking. I know the address is on the Mondo whiteboard which may not be the best place to put emails or web addresses on related to any of the works or us.

There are people out there who trawl the internet for email addresses (I know as I have to use an email account for work and it's got to be 'out there' in virtual space, so I get spam stuff all the time); who may do the same thing with web sites (they look for bot hosts where they can send files from hacked sources/computers without themselves being identified. Technical stuff I'm a novice to, but it's something like that.

Now copyright issues, apart from some of the images, I'm a little unsure what that is about. On Mondo is it often done that people post other people's materials (as in just to discuss), as anything for educational purposes etc is fine. But American laws are possibly different, heck Americans can even patent descriptive words.

@Arden, I would like a black olive in that martini, thank you very much.

Veronika wrote:

There are people out there who trawl the internet for email addresses (I know as I have to use an email account for work and it's got to be 'out there' in virtual space, so I get spam stuff all the time); who may do the same thing with web sites (they look for bot hosts where they can send files from hacked sources/computers without themselves being identified. Technical stuff I'm a novice to, but it's something like that.

@Arden, I would like a black olive in that martini, thank you very much.

We absolutely know who did the hacking - they must've wanted us to know, judging by the elephant sized footprints they left in the butter!

I think I can stretch to a black olive - I'm a dab hand with cocktails, without wishing to sound immodest! A Martini is one serious drink!

I'm obviously logged on at the moment, however, I got notification from my hotmail of an update so I went onto the site via that link. Even though I had not yet logged in I could still see Arden's new comment that he had made --- odd. I guess if it's to do with cache stuff that maybe why. I gather you are using the same software as Mondo forum, did this issue arise on that?

It's just a matter of how you set things up I think. I have us set to automatic login status so it's all systems go as soon as you get here but I can change that if you prefer - it's not going to make any difference in terms of forum visibility for non members..

It's all good, (smile).

Veronika wrote:

Weird on the hacking. I know the address is on the Mondo whiteboard which may not be the best place to put emails or web addresses on related to any of the works or us.

There are people out there who trawl the internet for email addresses (I know as I have to use an email account for work and it's got to be 'out there' in virtual space, so I get spam stuff all the time); who may do the same thing with web sites (they look for bot hosts where they can send files from hacked sources/computers without themselves being identified. Technical stuff I'm a novice to, but it's something like that.

Now copyright issues, apart from some of the images, I'm a little unsure what that is about. On Mondo is it often done that people post other people's materials (as in just to discuss), as anything for educational purposes etc is fine. But American laws are possibly different, heck Americans can even patent descriptive words.

@Arden, I would like a black olive in that martini, thank you very much.

Well, it's best not to use copyrighted work. When in doubt, I always don't. You can always check the Preminger Archives to see if something is public domain, or there are free-use websites out there.
When they post different materials on a private forum, it's a private affair, but if they should use that artwork in their own, or as their own, it's a possible copyright violation.

This copyright issue isn't by any chance related to my latest Phantasmagoria comic where I use public domain images and images from the Dover's Pictorial Library?

Reason I ask is that someone did PM me on Facebook and say they were "amazed at my abilities of theft", which I came back to them with a rebuttal of some sort about Dover's licensing policy, etc and it was all okay. Plus permissions have been sought elsewhere, granted and I didn't even need to acknowledge as it wasn't for any commercial purpose - how's that for generosity?

Most generous indeed: I hardly think the appropriation of the images in question constitutes
grand larceny however. And how fortunate for Mr. Warhol that there was no Facebook to be PM'd on in his day.

Veronika wrote:

This copyright issue isn't by any chance related to my latest Phantasmagoria comic where I use public domain images and images from the Dover's Pictorial Library?

Reason I ask is that someone did PM me on Facebook and say they were "amazed at my abilities of theft", which I came back to them with a rebuttal of some sort about Dover's licensing policy, etc and it was all okay. Plus permissions have been sought elsewhere, granted and I didn't even need to acknowledge as it wasn't for any commercial purpose - how's that for generosity?

No. that's exactly one of the public domain sites I was referring to. There's catalogues of pd work in evey graphic art studio.
It's just a general policy in the format we are using. There are graphics and rooms made available to the public for palace, but if a user complains that we stole his barroom, by rights, and ethics, we take it down.


( we need a decent bar, by the way, a neighborhood pub by joint, so people can mash out ideas - I'll start bluelinfing that tonight.)

Smoke wrote:

( we need a decent bar, by the way, a neighborhood pub by joint, so people can mash out ideas - I'll start bluelinfing that tonight.)

AGREED!

Thirded!

Arden wrote:

We absolutely know who did the hacking - they must've wanted us to know, judging by the elephant sized footprints they left in the butter!

I think I can stretch to a black olive - I'm a dab hand with cocktails, without wishing to sound immodest! A Martini is one serious drink!

I don't think elephants live down there, you sure it wasn't a tweety footprint in that butter?

I was speaking metaphorically of course and with apologies to our real elephant patrons - the elephant is a noble and majestic beast!

Edit: yes, on closer inspection, definitely a small bird or large insect type print!

Allow me to introduce myself. I am and am not RoboTwin, possibly a bio-mechanical man with no discernible function or use, merely exercising liberties I never earned for myself.

In regards to the elephantine, scientists have determined that living skin of your typical adult human, on close inspection and scaled to the size of elephants, is actually more wrinkly than that of elephants.

Howdy. I got invited and I'm not sure why.

If you can't post "colorful" language here, I'm not sure how long I'll last.

Hey there, welcome guys!

RoboTwin - you just provided the jaw dropping slice of elephantine trivia I'll be unleashing over christmas dinner this week - cheers!

Tarnsman - my guess is you're here because Madame Veronika saw in you a prime specimen!



Prime specimens are apt to use 'colourful' language, so you should be fine! This forum just kind of spun off from another project and hopefully it'll just find it's own way.

"I don't think elephants live down there, you sure it wasn't a tweety footprint in that butter?"

For you youngsters, it's referencing an old Elephant Joke:


How do you know when there's been an Elephant in the refridgerator?

Footprints in the butter!


Long ago, elephant jokes were a popular fad.
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